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  • #768

    Dear GroCycle.

    Are there rules for what type of straw we need to use? I have a contact that gave me some straw with a lot of clover in, is that a problem?

    Also, instead of using straw can sawdust be used? Sawdust can be bought as a sterile product and therefore you can save a step in the production.

    Best regards

    Kristian

    #780
    Adam
    Keymaster

    Kristian asked:

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    Dear GroCycle.

    Are there rules for what type of straw we need to use? I have a contact that gave me some straw with a lot of clover in, is that a problem?

    Also, instead of using straw can sawdust be used? Sawdust can be bought as a sterile product and therefore you can save a step in the production.

    Best regards

    Kristian

    #781
    Adam
    Keymaster

    Hi Kristian,

    Normally, wheat, barley or oat straw are used – mainly because they are most common types of straw available, but also because they are good sources of lignin and cellulose. I’ve not come accross straw with clover in before – are you sure it’s not Hay (cutt grasses) instead of Straw (stems from cereal crops)?

    Yes, you can definitely add sawdust instead if it is sterile – you can buy it in pelletised format and it will be sterile from the heat pressure it undergoes in the pelletising machine. You would just add enough water to bring it to ‘field capacity’ – the point at which when you squeeze it, a couple drops of water come out. No more than this, or it will be too wet.

    Good luck, and let us know how you get on.

    best wishes,

    Adam

    #789
    Karla Estrada
    Participant

    Hey, i’m testing mixing with kind sawdust. The carpenter gave me leftovers of cutting wood, not dust sawdust, just bigger, like 5 to 10 centimeters height and 1 or 2 cm width.

    I’ve sterilized with the hydrated calcium you guys said, and watter. I left it on the water about 15-16 hours. It’s been just 4 days sens I Mix all the elements, just right after sterilize the “sawdust”, and of course, i’ve squiz it.

    It’s seems every thing OK today. The spawn has start growing.

    Is it Ok i sterilized the sawdust like that?

    I’ll let you know how it work.

    Regards.

    #835
    Adam
    Keymaster

    Hi Karla,

    Great to hear you experimenting! Yes this should be fine to pasteurise the wood shavings like this, especially if they are from kiln-dried wood that a carpenter would often be working with.

    How are the bags now looking a few weeks later?

    Adam

    #838

    Hello,

    On alternatives to straw has anyone used coir or recycled paper pellets with any success?

    Thanks in advance.

    bex

    #841
    Eric Jong
    Keymaster

    Hi Bex,

    we have no direct experience with coir or paper pellets. It should work as I have heard of coir being used. We have had some success growing on paper hand towels and that was fun to see work.

    Let us know how you get on!

    Best wishes,

    Eric

    #1453
    Leisha Mongan
    Participant

    Can you clarify if the weight of the straw is pre or post the lime bath? Thinking dry straw would be much bigger in volume than wet.

    #1457
    Adam
    Keymaster

    The amount to add to the mix is based upon a wet weight (after pasteurising). Wet straw us approximately 4 times heavier than when dry.

    In recent experiments we’ve found that adding agricultural lime (as mentioend in module 3 at present) to the coffee/straw mix is uneccessary, and that you can have perfectly good results without it. We are due to update the course information in the weeks ahead, and the recipe we will recommend to people will simply be:

    for every 1kg of fresh coffee grounds, add:

    150g pasteurised straw (either lime bath or hot water pasteurised)
    150g oyster mushroom spawn

    #2007
    Philip Labre
    Participant

    G’day from Australia,

    I have been reading other forums on mushroom growing and they use lucerne hay instead of straw as the higher protein levels produce mushrooms with higher protein and better taste. we have access to other legume hay/straws such as Pea hay, Peanut hay, mung bean and soy bean hay or straw. what’s your thoughts.

    Phil

    #2011
    Adam
    Keymaster

    Hi Phil,
    In all honesty I’m not that familiar with growing mushrooms on hay – I have done it a couple of times a few years ago and it contaminated both times. From reading around I understand that one of the main problems with hay is the likelihood of seeds being amongst it which are nitrogen rich and tend to contaminate and foster mould easily, unless sterilised at high temperature.

    Straw tends to be just the cut stalk and doesn’t usually have so many seeds in – if you have access to this then it’s probably your best option, but always good to experiment if you’re interested to know first hand.

    Let us know how you get on.
    Best wishes, Adam

    #2014
    Philip Labre
    Participant

    Thanks Adam Straw is a lot cheaper and I can buy it in large round bails each weighing aprox. 350kg. I am in the middle of the grain growing belt in the darling downs Queensland Australia. I pass the hay through a mulcher to make it look like the hay you use in the vidio. I am just waiting for the sporn I have ordered as it takes 3 weeks to make. I finished the course in one afternoon.

    Phil

    #2018
    Adam
    Keymaster

    Sounds like you’re off to a flying start Phil! Best of luck and let us know how it all goes once you’ve got your first bags growing.

    #2316

    Hi there,

    I use hydrated lime to pasteurize the straw and the straw dont drain too well the moisture. I used to left the straw draining like 4 hours over  bread trays.

    My question is what i can do to get the right moisture for the straw? Now i have a lot of water in it.

    Thanks.

    Josue Zambrano

     

     

     

    #2318
    Eric Jong
    Keymaster

    Hi Josue,

    you typically soak the straw for 14-18 hrs and then drain all the water. Once the water has been drained you leave it for another hour or so to further dry and this should work fine. How long did you soak it for?

     

    Cheers,

    Eric

     

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